I have a mix of everything and honestly feel like the price pretty much reflects what you can except life wise out of them. The gyre has alot of moving parts that seem to ware out but bang for buck there pretty great. The ecotech MP's are very reliable and go for ever if you clean them once and awhile. Not a big fan of the hydor or korilla pumps long term they have issues but are very cost effective. The new pumps from APEX might be worth looking into, i have not tried them yet. GL